zh-cn	2020年4月23日，刘晓明大使出席“亚洲之家”网上座谈会，发表主旨演讲，并与“亚洲之家”主席格林勋爵进行对话交流，回答听众提问。
en-us	At an Asia House webinar on 23rd April, Ambassador Liu Xiaoming delivered a speech, followed by a discussion with Lord Green and Q&A with the online audience. 

zh-cn	对话交流和答问实录如下：
en-us	Here are the excerpts of the discussion and Q&A session.

zh-cn	格林勋爵：欢迎刘大使！非常感谢各位与会者！
en-us	Lord Green: Thank you Ambassador Liu and thank you very much to those who are with us. 

zh-cn	随着新冠肺炎疫情在全球蔓延，我们正面临非同寻常的形势，更多人呼吁开展建设性的国际合作。
en-us	There will be many people who share the appeal for constructive international cooperation and engagement in this unprecedented situation. 

zh-cn	我认为，现在的形势至少是第二次世界大战以来“前所未有”的，给每一个国家都带来了各种挑战。
en-us	Unprecedented is a word that is becoming extremely frequently to use, but we think it is unprecedented at least since the Second World War. It poses all sorts of challenges for individual countries. 

zh-cn	中国第一个受到疫情冲击，看来也将是第一个摆脱疫情影响的国家。
en-us	China is the first into it and seems to be the first out of it. 

zh-cn	我认为，保持谨慎仍是非常必要的。
en-us	I guess caution is always necessary. 

zh-cn	现在英国仍在与疫情做斗争，欧洲也在与疫情做斗争。
en-us	Britain as you know is still struggling, and Europe is all struggling with this.

zh-cn	当前，我们面临短期、中期和长期的挑战，其中一些挑战源于新冠疫情的深刻影响，另一些则不是。
en-us	It seems to me that there are some short, medium and longer term challenges, some of which are deeply impacted by COVID-19, and some are not. 

zh-cn	在我看来，短期内，我们面临如何退出封锁隔离措施的问题。
en-us	It seems to me that clearly in the short term, we have the question of how to exit from lockdown strategies. 

zh-cn	这一问题在英国乃至整个欧洲引起了广泛讨论，并在美国和东亚一些地区引发诸多焦虑。
en-us	This as you know is a topic that gets a lot of conversation in this country and around Europe more generally, and it's causing a lot of anxiety in the US as well, and maybe in some parts of East Asia. 

zh-cn	日本采取了特殊的防疫路径，但极有可能引发病毒“二次冲击”。
en-us	Japan has taken a particular route, which is almost explicitly allowing the possibility of a second wave of the virus. 

zh-cn	在研制出有效疫苗仍需时日的情况下，不同的抗疫策略会带来不同的挑战。
en-us	So different strategies are all agonising with the difficulty of getting out of the COVID-19 situation, particularly since we all recognise that it will take some while for an effective vaccination to be available against the virus. 

zh-cn	疫情对经济也产生短期挑战。
en-us	There are some short term challenges that have to do with the immediate economic impact of COVID-19, which we all wrestle with. 

zh-cn	例如，旅游业如何能重新成为重要的经济力量？
en-us	For example, how tourism will reemerge as an important economic force; 

zh-cn	小型零售企业在多大程度上会因疫情影响而倒闭？
en-us	and about the retail industry, to what extent many small businesses will be shut down and so on.

zh-cn	从整个宏观经济看，各国纷纷推出庞大的财政和货币刺激政策，这些措施会产生什么样的中期后果？
en-us	Then there is the whole macroeconomic picture: country after country have released enormous support packages, fiscal and monetary. What are the medium term consequences of those?

zh-cn	随着各国试图修复财政状况，这是否意味着新一轮财政紧缩？是否意味着将推高税收或通胀？
en-us	Does this mean that we face, a little further down the track, a period of renewed austerity, as nations try to repair the balance of their finances? Does it mean higher taxes? Does it mean higher inflation?

zh-cn	无论是经济正在复苏的中国，还是英国、欧洲国家或者美国，都面临这样的问题。
en-us	There are all sorts of questions that will be around. They'll be around for the Chinese authorities, I think, as the Chinese economy rebounds. They are clearly going to be around in the British context, and in a broad European context.

zh-cn	当然，由于美元的特殊性，美国的情况可能会有所不同。
en-us	The US will face it and it comes with a different way because it's in a special position vis à vis the dollar.

zh-cn	这些都是疫情带来的中期挑战。
en-us	And that's the sort of medium term challenge that's created by COVID-19.

zh-cn	同时，在疫情影响之外还存在一些中长期挑战，国际贸易秩序就是其中之一。
en-us	I think there are some medium and longer term challenges that are not affected by COVID-19. I think that the trade order is one question.

zh-cn	在疫情暴发前，由于缺乏足够的上诉法官，世界贸易组织正在丧失有效解决争端的能力。
en-us	Even before the virus we were all struggling with the fact that the WTO was losing its ability to effectively arbitrate disputes because of the absence of appellate judges.

zh-cn	我注意到，今年3月30日，欧盟和中国以及其他一些国家达成了“多方临时上诉仲裁安排”（MPIA）。
en-us	I noticed that, on the 30th March, right in the thick of the pandemic, the EU and China and a number of other nations agreed on the multi-party interim appeal arbitration arrangement.

zh-cn	这是支持世贸组织工作的重要一步。我很关注英国将如何参与这一安排。
en-us	There is a question in my mind about how the UK can get itself involved in that. But I think we should all recognise this is an important step in shoring up the work of the WTO.

zh-cn	刘大使刚才在演讲中谈到为什么要支持世卫组织。
en-us	You talked about the reasons we all recognise about the WHO.

zh-cn	世卫组织是一个重要的国际组织，而世贸组织同样是一个重要的国际机构，是当前国际多边秩序的一部分，我们都应予以关注。
en-us	I think the WHO is one important international organization, whereas WTO is an equally important international institution that is part of a functioning multilateral order, and we all have some concerns about that.

zh-cn	对于这两个国际组织，美国目前采取了“非建设性态度”。
en-us	Let's face it, in both cases, America has chosen to take a less constructive view at least temporarily.

zh-cn	我认为，重建对国际多边秩序的信心，符合各方共同利益。
en-us	And I think it's a common interest to re-establish a conviction about the importance of that international multilateral order.

zh-cn	最后，还有一个绕不开的长期性问题，就是生物多样性、环境退化、气候变化。
en-us	And then finally, I think there is the longer-term question which is in no way going away, and that is about bio-diversity, environmental degradation, climate change.

zh-cn	疫情导致经济活动下降，世界各地城市的污染状况暂时得到改善，二氧化碳排放减少。
en-us	In the short term, we have seen how the decline in economic activity has improved levels of pollution in cities around the world, and has led to a reduction in carbon dioxide emissions, but in no way was it anything other than temporary.

zh-cn	但由于持续的人口、城市化和经济发展等压力，人类将不得不继续面对环境、气候等长期挑战。
en-us	I believe that the continuing demographic pressure, the continuing pressure of urbanisation, the continuing pressure of economic development means that we are going to continue to have to grapple with this fundamental longer term challenge and COVID-19 in no way affects that.

zh-cn	短期内，疫情可能增加应对气候变化的困难，比如英中双方均不得不推迟举办《联合国气候变化框架公约》第26次缔约方会议（COP26）和《生物多样性公约》第15次缔约方会议（COP15）。
en-us	It's made it more difficult in the short term, of course by forcing China to postpone the Kunming COP15 bio-diversity conference, and forcing the UK to postpone the Glasgow COP26 which was due in November.

zh-cn	刘大使提到这两次会议是中英共同的重要议程，我也希望会议只是暂时推迟，
en-us	I hope that those postponements are only for a relatively short period of time, because of all the common agendas you, Ambassador, have quite rightly referred to, this one is perhaps the most important of all. It's the most profound and the longest term.

zh-cn	我们不会因疫情和眼前的困难而忽视长期挑战。
en-us	We should not allow COVID-19, and the tragedies and difficulties of the present circumstances, to take our eyes off that ball.

zh-cn	我们生活的时代非同寻常。
en-us	So there's a lot going on; We live in extraordinary times.

zh-cn	疫情带来的挑战是多方面的，国际关系也不可避免的受到影响。
en-us	There are plenty of challenges posed by COVID-19.There are also challenges that affect international relationships inevitably.

zh-cn	对于中美关系这一重大问题，我们欧洲人以期待和祈愿的心态关注其发展，认为中美关系只有在建设性基础上才能向前发展。
en-us	The big question of China and America, which we Europeans look at with hope and prayer, but this relationship will only develop on a constructive basis.

zh-cn	因此，我们今天的对话可谓恰逢其时。
en-us	And I think that there's therefore plenty of need for us to continue to have the sort of dialogues with what this occasion represents.

zh-cn	“亚洲之家”一直积极为开展各类对话发挥重要的平台作用，这些对话既包括从微观经济到宏观经济，也包括贸易秩序等中期问题，以及气候变化及其对经济发展影响等长期问题。
en-us	One is here at Asia House, we have an extremely important role in providing a platform for these dialogues, both about shorter term issues from micro to macro economics, and about the medium term issues of the trade order, and about the longer term issues of climate change cooperation and its impact on economic development.

zh-cn	我就讲到这里。刘大使，不知你是否与我“君子所见略同”？
en-us	Let me stop there. I wonder if any of what I've just said resonates with you. Ambassador?

zh-cn	刘大使：感谢格林勋爵！对于你谈到的很多问题，有不少方面和观点我都赞同。
en-us	Ambassador Liu: Yes, Lord Green. You've touched upon many areas. I would say that I quite agree with you on many of these areas, and your points.

zh-cn	你谈到了疫情对各个国家的挑战。
en-us	You talk about the challenges in each country.

zh-cn	我认为每个国家的情况各不相同，英国不同于德国、意大利或法国。
en-us	I think each country is different from the other. The UK is different from Germany, Italy, or France.

zh-cn	我们正在密切关注疫情情况。
en-us	We follow the situation very closely.

zh-cn	尽管存在差异，但我认为各国在抗击疫情方面仍存在共同之处。
en-us	But despite the differences, I think there's a commonality between countries in fighting against this virus.

zh-cn	我在演讲中谈到中英合作，这同样适用于中国与其他国家的合作。
en-us	I talked, in my presentation, about China-UK collaboration. I think that also applies to China's collaboration with other countries.

zh-cn	当我们面对这些共同威胁时，各国应该共同合作应对。
en-us	When we're faced with these common threats, countries should work together.

zh-cn	第一，我们应该加强互相支持。
en-us	First, I think we should support each other.

zh-cn	在医疗物资领域，当中国处于抗疫关键阶段时，英国政府向中国提供了两批急需的医疗物资。
en-us	In terms of medical supplies, when China was at its critical moment, the UK government sent two shipments of most needed medical supplies.

zh-cn	现在英国正与疫情做斗争，我们同样向英方提供了大力支持。
en-us	But now you are fighting your battle, we reciprocate your support.

zh-cn	正如英国内阁办大臣戈夫所说，英方收到中方的防疫医疗物资远远超过英方给中方的防疫捐赠。
en-us	Just as Minister Gove said, you received much more than what you donated to China.

zh-cn	目前，英国急需呼吸机，中国已经将750台呼吸机运到英国，未来还会更多。
en-us	Currently I think the ventilators are badly needed. 750 ventilators have already been shipped to the UK, and there are more to come.

zh-cn	我们还准备向英国及世界其他国家提供更多其他医疗物资和设备。
en-us	There are other medical supplies and equipment that we are ready to supply to the UK and to the world.

zh-cn	第二，我们要开展抗疫经验分享。
en-us	The other area is the sharing of experience. 

zh-cn	中国是最早取得疫情防控重要阶段性成效的国家之一。我们愿与其他国家分享在疫情防控和诊疗方面的经验。
en-us	China is one of the first countries which have achieved important progress, and we'd like to share with other countries our experience on how to contain the virus, and how to treat the patients. 

zh-cn	我很高兴地看到，中英双方就此保持密切沟通。
en-us	I'm very pleased that we are keeping constant communications between the two sides. 

zh-cn	英国卫生大臣汉考克昨天与中国卫生健康委主任马晓伟通了电话，
en-us	Secretary Matt Hancock just had a telephone conversation yesterday with his counterpart Ma Xiaowei, the Chinese Health Minister. 

zh-cn	双方就中英抗疫合作进行了非常富有成果和深入的讨论。
en-us	They had a very productive and in-depth discussion on collaboration between China and the UK in fighting against the virus, shared experience and compared notes.

zh-cn	第三，我们要加强抗疫国际合作。
en-us	The third area is international cooperation.

zh-cn	在演讲中，我已经谈到这方面内容。
en-us	I touched upon that in my presentation.

zh-cn	刚才，格林勋爵以“英国绅士式”的措辞—“非建设性态度”来形容美国的立场和做法。
en-us	You used the word in a very polite and very British gentlemanly expression about the unconstructive approach by the United States.

zh-cn	我们对美国宣布暂停资助世卫组织的决定深感失望。
en-us	We are very disappointed by the US decision, 

zh-cn	在当前抗疫关键时刻，世卫组织扮演着重要角色，我们需要支持世卫组织在全球抗疫合作中发挥领导作用。
en-us	but we believe that the WHO plays a very important role, especially at this critical moment. We need to support the WHO in leading the international response against this virus.

zh-cn	我很高兴地看到，英国政府决定继续支持世卫组织，中英双方在这方面持相同立场。
en-us	I'm pleased that the UK government decided to continue to support the WHO. So China and the UK share this common position.

zh-cn	中国已向世卫组织提供2000万美元捐款。就在我们今天活动开始前数个小时，中国又宣布向世卫组织增加3000万美元现金捐款，用于支持非洲和发展中国家卫生体系建设等工作。
en-us	In addition to the 20 million US dollars, just a few hours before our event today, the Chinese government announced that we are going to donate another 30 million US dollars to the WHO.

zh-cn	中国政府有关部门好像知道今天“亚洲之家”要举办这一活动，使我能够第一时间跟各位分享这个信息。（众人笑）
en-us	Maybe they knew that the Asia House and you are going to have this event, so I can share with you firsthand information. (Laughter) Especially, we hope it will be used for the developing countries in Africa and in some other places.

zh-cn	第四，我们要加强宏观经济政策协调。包括中英在内的国际社会可加强宏观经济政策协调，促进世界经济恢复增长。
en-us	The fourth area where China and the UK can cooperate and also the international community can enhance its collaboration is what you said macro economic policy, in a way to ensure that the world economy will resume growth.

zh-cn	目前，中国全国规模以上工业企业平均开工率已达到99％，中国政府还采取了更多支持中小企业的政策。
en-us	In China, the major industries have already resumed production by 99%, and the government introduced more policy measures to support small and medium sized businesses – that is also very important.

zh-cn	同时，中国致力于支持世界贸易组织，推进贸易自由化和便利化。我们愿就此与英方加强合作。
en-us	What's more, to support the WTO to ensure trade liberalisation and facilitation is still our goal. We would also like to work with the UK.

zh-cn	中方同样高度重视气候变化问题。
en-us	Climate change is very important on our agenda as well.

zh-cn	令人遗憾的是，中英双方均不得不推迟COP15与COP26。
en-us	It's a pity that we have to postpone both conferences, COP15 and COP26.

zh-cn	今年初，我曾讲，今年是中英气候变化合作之年。
en-us	At the very beginning of this year, I regarded it as a year of China-UK collaboration on climate change.

zh-cn	尽管面临疫情挑战，中英两国仍就此保持密切沟通。
en-us	As a matter of fact, our two countries worked very closely and coordinated with each other despite the virus.

zh-cn	会议虽然推迟，但工作仍在推进。
en-us	Although we have to postpone the conferences, the preparation work is still going on.

zh-cn	我同英国商业、能源与产业战略部大臣兼COP26主席夏尔马保持密切沟通，积极推动他与新上任的中国生态环境部部长黄润秋建立工作联系，两国工作组也通过网上保持沟通。
en-us	I keep very close communication with Secretary Sharma. He is designated as the President for COP26, and we have got a new Minister of Environment. So I tried to get the two connected. The working teams of our two countries are still talking to each other online. This is an issue that we should not ignore.

zh-cn	另一个重要问题是，当我们加强抗疫国际合作时，也应共同反对“政治病毒”。
en-us	The other important issue is that when we are enhancing international collaboration on fighting against COVID-19 virus, we should also be on guard against a political virus.

zh-cn	正如我在演讲中所说，一些政客和一些势力试图寻找“替罪羊”，企图对外“甩锅”、转嫁责任。
en-us	Like I said in my speech, some politicians and some forces try to find a scapegoat and to play a game of blaming in order to shirk their responsibility.

zh-cn	各国政府应集中精力应对疫情，保护本国人民生命安全，而不是相互攻击和破坏国际合作。
en-us	You know we call on governments of all countries to focus on fighting the virus, on protecting the lives of its people, rather than fighting each other, rather than undermining the international collaboration. 

zh-cn	对一些美国政客对中国的指责，我们坚决反对。
en-us	So we are very disappointed, and are rejecting these so-called accusations by some of the American politicians.

zh-cn	这种针对中国的抹黑无助于国际社会合作抗疫。
en-us	We don't think this disinformation against China serves the purpose of international response to this virus.

zh-cn	关于中美关系，我们完全有理由建立稳定和良好的关系。
en-us	On China-US relations, we have every reason to have a sound and good relationship. 

zh-cn	近一个时期，习近平主席与特朗普总统多次通话。
en-us	President Xi had several telephone conversations with President Trump. 

zh-cn	我们始终认为中美合则两利、斗则俱伤。
en-us	We always believe that China and the US will gain from cooperation and lose from confrontation. 

zh-cn	一个稳定和良好的中美关系不仅符合中美两国利益，也符合世界各国的利益。
en-us	We also believe it is not only in the interests of China and the US to have a sound and good relationship, but it's also in the interests of the world. 

zh-cn	我们希望在不冲突不对抗、相互尊重、合作共赢的基础上与美国保持良好关系，但是这需要中美双方相向而行。
en-us	We would like to have a good relationship with the US, based on mutual respect, non-confrontation and mutual collaboration, and we are working towards this goal. But you need two to tango, right?

zh-cn	当中国领导人和中国的驻外使节、外交官们在全世界大力倡导构建人类命运共同体，支持国际社会增强抗疫必胜信心的时候，一些国家的政客和官员在干什么？他们到处散布假消息和谣言——这毫无助益！
en-us	You know, while the Chinese leaders, or Chinese ambassadors, Chinese diplomats are spreading the words of community of shared future for mankind, and are trying very hard to shore up the confidence of international community, some politicians, some people are trying to spread disinformation and rumors in the world - that is not helpful at all! 

zh-cn	我们真诚希望中美加强合作，也希望国际社会加强合作，以实现符合全人类利益的共同目标。
en-us	So we really hope that China and the US could work together, and the international community could work together for the common goal that serves the interests of all mankind.

zh-cn	怡和集团董事亚当·凯瑟克：刘大使，你好！感谢刘大使和格林勋爵，你们刚才的发言令人鼓舞。
en-us	Adam Keswick from Jardine Matheson Holdings: Hello Ambassador. Thank you for your words, and Stephen, yours too. I thought it is very encouraging to hear everything you've said.

zh-cn	我相信，我们为抗疫而建立的沟通网络，在战胜疫情后同样能促进世界经济发展。
en-us	I hope that the networks of communications that have been put in place to fight this virus can be continued to promote the economy after we've tackled this, which I'm sure we will.

zh-cn	刘大使在演讲中对中国所作努力做了全面介绍，令人欣慰。
en-us	Ambassador, your views of what China will be doing, all of which I took a lot of comfort from.

zh-cn	现在，国际社会都很关注中国全国人民代表大会何时召开。
en-us	But more specifically, I feel that the eyes of the world will be watching the upcoming NPC meeting whenever that takes place.

zh-cn	有消息称，这次大会可能会在今年5月晚些时候召开。
en-us	But presuming it will be sometime later in May, 

zh-cn	你认为这次大会将对外传递什么具体信息？这些信息将如何增强国际社会抗疫信心、推动世界经济恢复到正常状态？希望听听你的看法。
en-us	it would be very interesting to get your views on what specific messages, do you think, are going to come out of that meeting that the rest of the world can take further comfort from in terms of battling the virus, and also a return to some form of economic normality. Just be interested to have your views on that.

zh-cn	刘大使：你提到的会议很重要。
en-us	Ambassador Liu: I think this will be very important.

zh-cn	每年的“两会”是中国政治生活中的一件大事。今年的“两会”受疫情影响推迟了。
en-us	We call it the two sessions. It has been postponed.

zh-cn	今年的“两会”将不只为今年中国发展制定规划，还将制定未来五年的“十四五”规划，意义更加深远。
en-us	It will set policies and the guidance, not only for the development of China for this year. I think it will draw the plan, or what we call the 14th Five-Year Plan. So, the significance of the two sessions will go beyond this year.

zh-cn	当然，抗击新冠肺炎疫情将是“两会”的重要议程。
en-us	Of course, the COVID-19 will be high on the agenda. And I wouldn't speculate what others will be on the agenda.

zh-cn	正如我在演讲中所说，疫情既带来挑战，也为中国进一步发展提供机遇。
en-us	But as I said in my speech that COVID-19 not only poses challenges to China but also creates opportunities for the development.

zh-cn	我认为，“两会”的代表们将会聚焦中国未来发展的新领域和新增长点。
en-us	I think both delegates of the National People's Congress and deputies of the People's Political Consultative Conference will focus on what are the new areas, what are the new points of growth for the future development.

zh-cn	我建议你密切关注今年中国“两会”。
en-us	So, I would recommend you to follow these two sessions very closely.

zh-cn	必和必拓公司国际关系和公共事务副总裁埃罗伯茨：很高兴听到刘大使全面介绍中国经济正走出危机。必和必拓与中国客户保持着非常密切的联系。
en-us	Emma Roberts from BHP: Ambassador, it is very good to hear your summary of China's economy as it's moving out of the crisis and BHP obviously has very strong relationship with its Chinese customers for its commodities.

zh-cn	截至目前，我们感到即使在中国疫情高峰期，中国客户对我们公司产品的需求仍保持稳定，这让我们能够继续向中国提供产品。
en-us	So far we've seen this demand remain rather stable even during the peak of the crisis within China. BHP has been able to work with its customers to continue that supply.

zh-cn	当然，我认为难免还会有一些关切。例如，近期部分媒体关注中国对外需求在今年下半年会否放缓。
en-us	However, I think there's certainly some concerns and there's been some recent press report about whether that demand from China may ease off towards the later part of the year.

zh-cn	同时，西方国家正尝试退出封锁隔离措施，实现经济恢复运转仍很艰难，中国从西方国家的进口可能下滑。
en-us	Perhaps China experiences dropping in exports from Western economies as Western economies try to come out of their lock down and struggle to get their economies up and running.

zh-cn	你对中国经济走出危机和保持快速发展势头有何看法？
en-us	What's your thought on China's continued emergence from its crisis and the continued risk of China's economy?

zh-cn	受西方经济复苏乏力影响，中国经济面临的风险会增加，还会保持稳定和强劲？
en-us	Do you see a dipping in that as the western economies struggling to get back, or remain rather steady and strong?

zh-cn	刘大使：我认为，随着逐步复工达产,中国仍将是世界经济发展的动力源。
en-us	Ambassador Liu: I think China will continue to play a role, as a powerhouse of the world economy, as China gradually resumes its production.

zh-cn	目前全国规模以上工业企业平均开工率已达到99％，中国将继续扮演“世界工厂”的角色。
en-us	As 99% of the major industries have resumed, China will continue to play a role as the world factory.

zh-cn	中国市场规模巨大，将为促进全球经济恢复增长做出贡献。
en-us	China is a huge market. So we will contribute to the resumption of global growth.

zh-cn	此次疫情也为中国经济加快转型带来机会，
en-us	The outbreak of Covid-19 really brings some opportunities for us to restructure our economy.

zh-cn	包括“宅经济”、数字经济、人工智能及医疗卫生等领域都具有很大的发展潜力。
en-us	Some areas might have great potentials, including stay-home economy, digital economy, AI and also medical area.

zh-cn	例如，从3月1日到4月10日，中国出口了约72亿个口罩，5557万件防护服，2万台呼吸机和1300万副护目镜。
en-us	Here's an example. From March 1st to April 10th, China exported about 7.2 billion masks, 35.57 million protective gowns, 20,000 ventilators and 13 million goggles.

zh-cn	中国已经成为全球医疗用品的主要供应地，这不仅是中国对全球抗疫的贡献，也有助于打造未来的产业链、供应链。
en-us	So China is really a source of medical supplies. That is also China's contribution, not only to the global response to the virus, but also it will help build the industrial and supply chain in the future.

zh-cn	中国致力于构建开放型世界经济。
en-us	China is committed to building an open world economy.

zh-cn	中国过去40多年来取得巨大成功，得益于改革开放。
en-us	China has achieved success in the past 40 years because of the policy of reform and opening up.

zh-cn	我认为，中国未来继续成功，同样有赖于坚持改革开放。
en-us	I think China will stick to this policy to continue its success.

zh-cn	对中国而言，没有任何理由关上大门，也没有任何理由停止改革。
en-us	There's no reason for China to close its door or discontinue the reform.

zh-cn	因此，中国的改革将继续推进，对世界开放的大门只会越开越大。
en-us	So reform will be going on and China will be open wider to the world.

zh-cn	第127届广交会将于今年6月在网上举办，第三届中国国际进口博览会将于11月举办，这些为中国与世界加强互利合作提供了宝贵机会。
en-us	The 127th China Import and Export Fair will be held online in June. And also the third China Import Expo will be held in November. These will be very valuable opportunities for China to engage with the outside world.

zh-cn	我已与英国国际贸易部高级官员和商界领袖进行沟通，邀请他们出席这两场重要活动。
en-us	I've been talking to British senior officials from Department of International Trade, as well as business leaders in the UK, inviting them to participate in these two events.

zh-cn	这将为中英两国共同推动重振世界经济提供重要机遇。
en-us	It will provide enormous opportunities for our two countries to work together to resume the momentum of economic growth.

zh-cn	阿斯利康公司英国政府与国际关系副总监曼：感谢刘大使所作精彩演讲。
en-us	Laura Mann from AstraZeneca: Thank you so much for your excellent remarks. 

zh-cn	阿斯利康公司一直高度重视对华合作。
en-us	AstraZeneca places very high value on partnership with China before and during COVID-19. 

zh-cn	疫情暴发以来，我们与中国以及世界卫生组织、世界经济论坛合作，向全球有需要的国家捐赠了900万个口罩。
en-us	We've been able to donate nine million masks around the world, and to the countries most in need, in partnership with the World Health Organization and World Economic Forum. 

zh-cn	你认为未来深化英中关系有哪些重要机遇？例如，在医疗卫生、生命科学等领域的合作。
en-us	I wondered, in your head, what do you see as the further opportunities to continue to strengthen the bilateral relationship between the UK and China? For example, in health care and life sciences.

zh-cn	刘大使：正如我刚才所讲，中英两国高层保持密切沟通。
en-us	Ambassador Liu: As I said earlier, our two countries keep talking to each other at the very high level.

zh-cn	习近平主席与约翰逊首相1个多月内两次通电话，这非常罕见。
en-us	You know, President Xi Jinping had two telephone conversations with Prime Minister Johnson within just a bit more than one month. That was very rare.

zh-cn	我担任中国驻英国大使10年有余，从未见过两国领导人在这么短的时间内进行如此密集的沟通。
en-us	I've been here as ambassador for more than 10 years, and I've never seen our top leaders have such intensive communications in such a short period of time.

zh-cn	中央外事工作委员会办公室主任杨洁篪与英内阁秘书兼首相国家安全顾问塞德维尔、王毅国务委员兼外长与英国外交大臣拉布等两国高官也保持密切沟通。
en-us	On the ministerial level, we are having very intensive communications, as Director Yang Jiechi talked to Sir Mark Sedwill, and State Counselor and Foreign Minister Wang Yi talked to Secretary Raab.

zh-cn	我在伦敦也与英国有关部门大臣、国务大臣等就中英合作交换意见和建议。
en-us	And here in London, I kept very close contacts with ministers and secretaries. We compare notes and share experiences.

zh-cn	未来中英很多领域的合作都充满机遇。
en-us	And, China and the UK are working very closely on developing the vaccine.

zh-cn	在疫苗研发和经验交流方面，目前中英两国科学家正紧密合作加快研发，帝国理工学院、牛津大学、剑桥大学与中国科研机构密切合作。
en-us	The scientists of our two countries are working very closely. Imperial College, Oxford and Cambridge are working very closely with their counterparts.

zh-cn	不久前，中国山东联合工作组来英国期间，与英国医疗专家进行线上交流，开展密切合作。
en-us	While the Chinese medical team was here, they had online discussions with the British experts and doctors. So we have very intensive interactions with each other.

zh-cn	除医疗物资外，疫苗是我们打赢这场全球疫情防控战的最终解决方案。
en-us	In addition to supplying medical equipment, vaccine is really the final solution to the battle.

zh-cn	习近平主席和约翰逊首相都很支持两国科学家在这一重要领域开展合作。
en-us	Both President Xi and Prime Minister Johnson expressed their support for the scientists of the two countries to work together in this very important area.

zh-cn	在国际领域，中英两国合作密切。
en-us	And also on the international arena, China and the UK both work very closely.

zh-cn	双方都支持多边主义，支持世卫组织和世贸组织，格林勋爵对此十分关注。
en-us	We're both supporters for multilateralism and the full supporters of the WTO. You know, Lord Green cares for it very much.

zh-cn	我们把英国视作共建“一带一路”的“天然合作伙伴”。
en-us	We see the UK as a partner for China on the Belt and Road.

zh-cn	中英还可共同推动“一带一路”沿线国家加强卫生合作，共建“健康丝绸之路”。
en-us	We are now working with the countries along the Road to build a "silk road for public health".

zh-cn	在气候变化领域，中英也可加强合作。
en-us	I think there is another area that China and the UK can share experience and can work together, climate change, as I said. 

zh-cn	双方都是环境保护的全球领军者。
en-us	China and the UK are leaders in environmental protection. 

zh-cn	中英今年原计划分别主办的COP15与COP26虽因疫情推迟，但双方准备工作并没有停止。
en-us	We're supposed to host COP 15 and COP 26. They have been postponed, but not canceled. We're still working. 

zh-cn	疫情过后，两场会议将再次提上日程，为气候变化、环境保护领域国际合作设定议程和方向。两国在这些领域合作面临巨大机遇。
en-us	You know, when this pandemic is over, the two countries will host these two conferences. They will set agenda and direction for climate change and for environmental protection. So, there are enormous opportunities between our two countries.

zh-cn	在贸易领域，中英合作前景广阔。
en-us	And the trade between us. I think there's still a great future for the trade between our two countries.

zh-cn	去年，尽管全球贸易增长放缓，中英双边货物贸易额同比增长超过7％，创历史新高。
en-us	Last year, the bilateral trade set a new record and increased more than 7%, despite the downturn of global growth of the trade.

zh-cn	目前，英国是中国在欧洲第三大贸易伙伴，中国是英国第三大货物出口市场。
en-us	The UK is now the third largest trading partner of China within the EU. China is the third largest export market for the UK.

zh-cn	英国是中国在欧洲地区最大投资目的地国，过去5年中国对英投资超过了过去30年总和，中资企业在英国非常活跃。
en-us	Chinese investment is also increasing. In the past five years, the total Chinese investment is bigger than the previous 30 years combined. Now, the UK is the number one destination in Europe for Chinese investment. Chinese businesses here are very active.

zh-cn	前不久，我在线出席了英国中国商会首批援助英方医疗物资捐赠仪式，英国中国商会向英国国民医疗服务体系捐赠了呼吸机、防护服、口罩等医疗物资，
en-us	A few days ago, I participated in the online donation event held by the China Chamber of Commerce in the UK. They donated ventilators, face mask, goggles and protective gowns to the NHS.

zh-cn	这充分体现了在英中资企业的全球视野和社会责任。
en-us	And that shows their global vision and sense of social responsibility.

zh-cn	我们鼓励中英之间加强这样的交流互动。
en-us	We encourage all these interactions between China and the UK.

zh-cn	毕马威会计师事务所金融服务副主席塞耶：我想谈谈现在了不起的技术。
en-us	David Sayer from KPMG: Thank you. I'm about to say, I enjoy this remarkable technology and for that I want to address a question.

zh-cn	刘大使，你刚才说，每个挑战中也蕴含着机遇。
en-us	You've said to me in the past that every challenge has an opportunity.

zh-cn	现在通过技术，我们不仅与英国客户，也能与中国公司进行更快、更直接的对话。我们现在能更容易、更好地与中国伙伴进行视频会议。
en-us	And I do think, this remarkable technology allows us to have a much more direct and immediate dialogue with Chinese firms. I've been talking to clients in the UK that I can bring my Chinese partners into a virtual meeting, far more easily and far more acceptably than it's been in the past and I think that's one of the changes we'll be seeing. Virtual dialogue is becoming, and proved it's workable. It's becoming utterly acceptable.

zh-cn	而以前，要与中国伙伴对话，我们必须经过近20个小时飞行，还得有其他安排。
en-us	And in the past having a dialogue with Chinese firms has always involved 20 hours on planes and the rest.

zh-cn	我认为此次疫情挑战所带来的一个机遇，就是英中各领域对话将加速。
en-us	I think one of the things coming out of this is the potential to accelerate dialogue between the UK and China across so many dimensions.

zh-cn	在这方面，我们应如何更好利用新技术？中国驻英国使馆为此能发挥什么作用？
en-us	And I just wonder the ways in which we can celebrate the facilitation of that, and whether the Embassy can play a role.

zh-cn	刘大使：很高兴你成为新技术的获益者之一。
en-us	Ambassador Liu: Yes, I'm very pleased that you are one of the beneficiaries of this new technology.

zh-cn	华为公司参与英国5G网络发展后，在线会议速度一定会更快、质量会更高。
en-us	Once you have a Huawei participating in your 5G development, the speed and quality of these online meetings will be even better.

zh-cn	约翰逊首相提出雄心勃勃的计划，要在2025年前在全英实现5G网络全覆盖，华为将为此发挥重要作用。
en-us	I know that Prime Minister Johnson has a very ambitious plan to have a full 5G coverage in the UK by 2025. I think Huawei will be a big help on this.

zh-cn	我希望，不仅中英两国领导人保持沟通，两国工商界人士也要加强对话。
en-us	You know, we encourage online meetings, discussions. We do hope that not only the leaders of our two countries talk to each other, but also business leaders.

zh-cn	除了与“亚洲之家”对话外，我最近还参加了其他在线会议。
en-us	I had several online meetings. As a matter of fact, this Asia House is really one of those webinars I have attended, and soon I will have another one with CBI.

zh-cn	不久前，我与英国中国商会进行视频座谈，接下来我还将与英国工商业联合会、英中贸协进行视频座谈。
en-us	 And then another one with the CBBC. I already had one with the British Chamber of Commerce in China.

zh-cn	我们能进行即时讨论，得益于新技术发展。
en-us	We had this real time discussion. I think we benefit greatly from this technology. This is very important.

zh-cn	同时，我们应致力于维护自由贸易，共同营造良好营商环境。
en-us	We should stay committed to free trade, to building our business friendly environment.

zh-cn	英国素以自由和开放经济著称，这是英国能成为中国在欧洲最大投资目的地国的重要原因。
en-us	The UK is well known for supporting free and open economy. That's very important. That's why the UK can become No.1 destination for Chinese investment.

zh-cn	我曾问中国企业家，你们为什么要到英国来投资，而不是去其他国家。我不久前参加中国河北敬业集团收购英国钢铁公司交割仪式时，问过敬业集团负责人同样的问题。
en-us	I had a meeting with many Chinese business leaders. I asked them, "Why are you here, compared with other European countries? And why do you put your money here?" Take Jingye. I just participated in Jingye's acquisition of the British Steel.

zh-cn	他们表示，英国非常开放、透明，英国从中央政府及地方政府领导人，到工商界人士和地方社区，都张开双臂欢迎中国投资。
en-us	They told me they found the UK very open, transparent, and the political leaders, business leaders, local leaders and local community welcome Chinese business with open arms.

zh-cn	这是英国成功的秘诀。
en-us	That's the secret of success of the UK.

zh-cn	因此，我希望这一势头能继续保持，这不仅有利于中英合作，也符合英国自身的利益。
en-us	So, I do hope that this trend will continue. It is really not only for the benefit of China-UK collaboration. It is also for the benefit of the UK people.

zh-cn	英国广播公司（BBC）外事记者兰德尔：刘大使，你非常重视国际合作。
en-us	James Landale from BBC: You placed great emphasis on international cooperation. 

zh-cn	中国是否支持针对病毒源头的独立国际调查？是否会完全向调查者开放所有的相关数据、地点和证据？
en-us	Will China, as a result, cooperate with any independent international investigation into the origins of this pandemic? Will China provide any investigators with full access to all the relevant data, locations and witnesses?

zh-cn	刘大使：中国对疫情从一开始就采取公开、透明、负责任的态度。
en-us	Ambassador Liu: China has been open, transparent and responsible from the very beginning.

zh-cn	我们邀请世卫组织专家来华，他们不仅访问了武汉，还访问了其他城市。
en-us	We have invited the WHO experts to come to China. They visited not only Wuhan but also other places and cities.

zh-cn	访问后他们发布了一份非常全面详实的报告，不知道你是否读过。
en-us	They came up with a very extensive and comprehensive report about their study in China. I do not know if you have read the WHO report.

zh-cn	我听到关于所谓中国掩盖和隐藏疫情的猜测和虚假信息，这些都不是事实。
en-us	I hear quite a lot of speculation and disinformation that the Chinese are covering up and hiding something. This is not true.

zh-cn	一些人抱有先入为主的偏见，每当听到美国政客指责中国掩盖事实的时候，都会随波逐流。
en-us	I do not know if you have read the WHO report. Some people already have a prejudgment. Each time they hear American politicians accusing and criticizing China for hiding or covering up, they just turn to them.

zh-cn	但是，当中国外交部发言人讲出事实真相的时候，西方媒体却很少报道，因为他们对中国抱有很深的偏见。这就是问题的症结。
en-us	But when Chinese spokesman spoke about the fact, I read very little coverage here in Western media. They already had a prejudgment and bias against China. That's the problem.

zh-cn	我建议包括英国媒体在内的西方媒体要秉持平衡、客观立场。
en-us	I would advise the media including the British media to be balanced and objective.

zh-cn	我并非要求你们对中国友好，只是要求你们保持平衡、公正的立场。
en-us	I'm not calling on you to be friendly to China, but just to be balanced.

zh-cn	你们报道美国国务卿对中国的所谓“批评”，实际上他是在对中国污名化。
en-us	While you are reporting what the US Secretary of State is so-called "criticizing" but actually "stigmatizing" China, 

zh-cn	同时，你们更应该报道中国的反驳论点，更应该报道世卫组织对此的评论。
en-us	you should also report the counter argument of China. You should also report the WHO's comment on it.

zh-cn	那些固守偏见的媒体，只会报道他们想听的东西，而不会报道故事的另一面。这就是问题之所在。
en-us	When the media have this bias, they only report something they would like to hear. They don't report the other side of the story. That's the problem.

zh-cn	中国政府对抗疫公开、透明、负责任并且反应迅速。
en-us	The Chinese government has been transparent and open, and has responded very quickly.

zh-cn	美国抱怨中国在疫情暴发后一个月没有分享信息、也没有向世卫组织和其他国际组织报告，这不是事实。
en-us	When Americans complain that China has not shared information and has not reported to the WHO and international organizations one month after the outbreak, that's not true.

zh-cn	新冠病毒最早由张继先医生于2019年12月27日首次报告，要早于李文亮医生。
en-us	The virus was first reported on 27th of December by Dr. Zhang Jixian. She reported much earlier than Dr. Li Wenliang.

zh-cn	李文亮医生是个英雄，为抗击疫情而牺牲了。
en-us	We recognize Dr. Li as a hero and he gave his life fighting this virus.

zh-cn	在张继先医生向当地卫生部门报告三天后，中国政府采取了非常严格和迅速的行动，四天后就通知了世卫组织，七天后与美国分享了疫情信息。
en-us	But he did not report to the authorities and he shared the story three days after Dr. Zhang Jixian reported to the local health authorities. Then the government adopted very strict and swift actions, notified the WHO four days later, and shared information with Americans seven days later.

zh-cn	所以美国才能采取撤侨等行动。
en-us	So that's how Americans could take actions to take their nationals back and to close the border.

zh-cn	如果你查阅中国抗疫的时间线，你会发现我们所有疫情信息都是公开、透明的。
en-us	If you check the timeline on what China was doing, you will find we have been transparent, straightforward with all the information.

zh-cn	你谈到独立调查，这应该取决于世卫组织。
en-us	You're talking about independent investigation. It's up to the WHO.

zh-cn	我们支持世卫组织在全球抗疫合作中发挥重要作用。我们应该遵循国际规则，而非某个国家的规则。
en-us	We support the WHO. We believe we should play by international norms and international rules, not by some other countries' rules.

zh-cn	个别国家甚至在地方法院“起诉”中国，这完全是荒唐至极。
en-us	Some other country even sues China at its local court. It's absurd.

zh-cn	我曾两次在美国常驻。
en-us	I've been posted twice in Washington.

zh-cn	这已不是第一次某些政客想当“世界警察”了。
en-us	This is not the first time that some politicians want to play world police.

zh-cn	当今时代已不是“炮舰外交”的时代，也不是中国处于半殖民地半封建社会的时代，而是二十一世纪的第三个十年。
en-us	This is not the era of "gunboat diplomacy". This is not the era when China was still in a semi-colonial and semi-feudal society. This is the third decade of the 21st century.

zh-cn	但这些政客还生活在过去，无法理解今天的世界，自认为能像过去一样欺负中国、欺负世界。
en-us	Those people cannot understand it. They think they still live in the old days when they can bully China and the world.

zh-cn	如果世卫组织不能按其意志行事，他们就停止支持世卫组织，指责世卫组织“以中国为中心”，这完全是错误的。
en-us	If the WHO does not act their way, they stop their support and criticize the WHO to be "China-centric". That's simply not right.

zh-cn	因此，我们呼吁加强国际合作，这是赢得抗疫斗争的唯一武器和唯一出路，而不应找“替罪羊”，不应玩政治游戏，不应把病毒政治化，不应传播“政治病毒”。
en-us	So we are calling for international cooperation. That's the only weapon and only way out to win this battle against the virus. Not by scape-goating, not by playing games, not by politicizing the virus, not by spreading political virus.

zh-cn	我们在与病毒这个“无形的敌人”作斗争时，必须对“政治病毒”保持警惕。
en-us	We have to guard against this while fighting this invisible enemy.

zh-cn	我想强调的是，中国不是美国的敌人，而是美国的朋友，是美国与病毒作斗争的伙伴。
en-us	China is not an enemy of the United States. China is a friend of the United States, a partner for the United States in fighting against the virus.

zh-cn	如果这些美国政客将中国视为敌人，就是选错了对象。
en-us	If they regard China as an enemy, they choose the wrong target.

zh-cn	尽管一些美国政客散布关于中国的虚假信息，我们仍在美国人民需要时伸出援手。中国已向美国提供超过18亿个口罩，意味着每个美国人可获得6个口罩。
en-us	Despite these politicians spreading disinformation about China, China has provided 1.8 billion face masks. That means six face masks per person in the United States. We still try to lend a helping hand to American people when they need us.

zh-cn	格林勋爵：刘大使，这是一次非常精彩的讨论。我感到收获颇丰。
en-us	Lord Green: Ambassador Liu, it has been a remarkable discussion. I've enjoyed enormously.

zh-cn	你最后的发言是非常好的总结，充分展示了我们在广泛领域有机会开展有效合作，我们需要保持这一积极势头。
en-us	Your final remarks are extremely good ones, to end on that powerful reminder that there is a huge range of issues on which we have every opportunity to cooperate effectively, and that we need to keep the momentum up.

zh-cn	在新冠肺炎疫情之后，我们将总结经验教训，短期内看，我们还有许多修补宏观经济等工作要开展，从长期看，我们在根本性问题上有很多共同点，也有很多合作的机会。
en-us	And remember, there will be a time after COVID-19, lots of lessons to be learned about it, lots of shorter term issues about repairing macro economic damages. There will also be fundamental longer term issues on which we have so much in common and where we have so many opportunities to work together.

zh-cn	因此，我代表“亚洲之家”衷心感谢你抽出宝贵时间与我们一起讨论，也期待着更多交流。
en-us	So I really appreciate, on behalf of Asia House, your taking the time to be with us. And I look forward to many future engagements.

zh-cn	你提到你出任中国驻英国大使已超过10年，这意味着你非常了解英国。
en-us	You mentioned that you were in your 101th year here. That means you know this country extremely well.

zh-cn	我一直很赞赏你对英国的看法，因为你总是对英国和英中关系有深刻的见解。
en-us	And I have always enjoyed your comments on this country, because you have great insights into it and into the dynamics of the relationship.

zh-cn	在这场疫情危机中，我们面临许多重大机遇。我们永远不要忽略这一点。
en-us	There are lots of, tremendous, opportunities for us in the midst of this crisis. And we need to never lose sight of that.

zh-cn	再次感谢刘大使，感谢所有嘉宾出席这场非常有意义的座谈会。再见！
en-us	So, thank you for joining. And thank you to all of our guests. Thank you to our corporate members and all of our guests for joining us on what I think is an extremely valuable session. Thank you.

zh-cn	刘大使：谢谢。再见！
en-us	Ambassador Liu: Thank you.